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Dear girls!
This is our first lesson in Writing Club.
Before we start, I would like to say that every person has his/her own manner of speaking and expressing the ideas. It means that we should be polite and tolerant during our discussions and respect the opinions of others.
Also I would like to say that we start an interesting project- how to improve our English Language online via writing.
This is an innovative approach for me and I am sure for you as well, so let's try to do our best to make these several months as fruitful as possible. To reach this goal we should be brave proving our opinion; and please, are not be afraid that you are writing with mistakes. That is why we are here- to learn! 
| Citāts: | Scientists Find Oldest Human Ancestor
Scientists may at last have found the ‘missing link’ in our evolution. For centuries, experts have discussed whether or not we came from apes, without any real proof. The story of evolution has found a new chapter after the discovery of the world’s oldest skeleton of our ancestors. The remains of 100 bones were found in an Ethiopian village. They belong to a species called Ardipithecus ramidus. The skeleton has been given the nickname Ardi. Scientists say the fossilized bones are 4.4 million years old. This is a million years older than a skeleton found in the 1970s called Lucy. Ardi is important because she shows an unknown stage of our evolution that happened six million years ago. Ardi was a 50kg female. She had a brain smaller than ours and had long arms and short legs. Her teeth are more like ours than those of chimpanzees. Scientists are excited because she walked upright, on two legs, not on all fours. She did not have an arched foot, which means she could not walk for long distances or run too far. Her long fingers and big toes meant she could easily climb through trees. Experts say the discovery is one of the most important finds ever. Professor Owen Lovejoy of the USA’s Kent State University was very excited at seeing Ardi. He said: "This was like discovering a time capsule from a period and a place that we knew nothing about." Ardi is sure to unlock a few secrets to how we evolved. |
WARM-UPS:
1. CHAT:
In pairs / groups, decide which of these topics or words from the article are most interesting and which are most boring. Explain why.
scientists / evolution / apes / proof / skeletons / nicknames / six million years ago / females / chimpanzees / long distances / trees / discoveries / time capsules / secrets
Have a chat about the topics you liked.
2. SCIENCE QUESTIONS: Do you know the answers to these questions? Why do you think so?
Do we come from apes?
Is there life on Mars?
What was before the Big Bang?
Can robots be intelligent?
Will we live forever?
Do ghosts exist?
3. APES: Students:
Riska
Angel
Lapsa
kosmoljka
Leda
LENI28 strongly believe we came from apes;
Students:
kroljix
ivasi
Oka
Lilu
Drema
Leonella strongly believe we didn’t.
4. TIME CAPSULE: Would you like to be in a time capsule? Rank these – the ones you would most like to visit at the top and explain why.
6 million years ago
1973
22 AD
the beginning of time
this time last year
the year 2100
next Tuesday at 3.30 pm
1872
VOCABULARY
1. CHIMPANZEE: Spend one minute writing down all of the different words you associate with the word ‘chimpanzee’.
2. WORD SEARCH: Look in your dictionary / computer to find collocates, other meanings, information, synonyms … for the words ‘missing’ and ‘link’.
3. TEST : Look at the words below. Try to recall how they were used in the text:
link
proof
oldest
species
bones
stage
brain
upright
run
trees
capsule
unlock
EVOLUTION DISCUSSION
STUDENTS Riska
Angel
Lapsa
kosmoljka
Leda
LENI28 have QUESTIONS :
a)What did you think when you read the headline?
b)What springs to mind when you hear the word ‘evolution’?
c)What is your theory of how we got on Earth?
d)Do you believe we descended from apes?
e)What is the missing link scientists keep talking about?
f)What do you think of this new discovery in Ethiopia?
g)Are you interested in this kind of news? Why?
h)Do you think scientists will ever be able to trace our evolution?
i)What do you think life was like six million years ago?
j)What other unknown things about the human race would you like to know?
STUDENTS kroljix
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Oka
Lilu
Drema
Leonella have QUESTIONS :
a)Did you like reading this article?
b)Why are scientists so excited at finding Ardi?
c)Would you like to have a job looking for old bones?
d)What are the similarities and differences between Ardi and us?
e)What will we look like six million years from now?
f)What have you heard in the news about Ardi?
g)What place in time would you like to visit?
h)What would surprise Ardi most about life on Earth today?
i)What other secrets are there for scientists to unlock?
j)What questions would you like to ask Professor Owen Lovejoy?
WRITING:
1. HOW WE GOT HERE:Write an essay about how humans became humans[/color]. Include imaginary interviews with two people with very different views.
2. LETTER: Write a letter to an evolution expert. Ask him/her three questions about evolution. Give him/her three of your own opinions about evolution.
That's it! Thank you very much for reading it.  Good luck and have a good discussion! 
Deadline for written works is on Sunday!
Some comments upon the tasks in Russian  , just to make everything clear. http://www.kkm-online.lv/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=559148#559148
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Cet Okt 15, 2009 10:15
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But how they recognize, that Ardi is female  if there was only bones...
Ok,I have to believe, that we come from apes
It must be very pretty apes, I think
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Cet Okt 15, 2009 14:41
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Very interesting article!! I am interesting in that,because it so interesting to know about our past,our history. I am sure that live was born in Earth,not bring from space.I don`t hear any relaible version about our space origin may bee. I think we going from any prehistoric man,may bee from ages.  I think many of this connecting links didn`t found, many proofs are under ground.
Interesting that human who lived 4,4 millions years ago now can help modern people understand the earth history.This female lived,hunted,climbed on trees,gave birth to her babys. That about she think?That mans and womans lived near? Did they has communitys or lived separately? Many-many guestions and we havn`t answeres on this.
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Cet Okt 15, 2009 14:46
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Ohh, so difficult to write composition 
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Cet Okt 15, 2009 15:48
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Рelvic bones (may be not only those bones, but others too, I don't know) of a male or female look differently, so probably that's why sci-guys supposed they'd found female remains.
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Oh! Great topic! what i am really happy for, I have to stand up the topic other than coming from the apes.. For all is much closer a cosmic theory ...
just one question: where we have to sent our essays? Write here on Sunday as a one big message or...? 
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Yes, pelvic bones of female are narrower that those of man. Interesting, what was the ideal of hip size 6 million years ago?  I don`t suppose that men-apes liked females with hip size 90 cm
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Oy, my dear madams, I kindly ask you to explain me in more detailed way how we should cope with all thes exercises. The more I read about the topic the more I am confused. The only that I have understood that exercises given in part Writting have to be done on our own and handed on Sunday directly to Helen. Others items should be written and discussed directly there at the forum?
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Cet Okt 15, 2009 21:45
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| Citāts: | | Do we come from apes? |
hmm, maybe who knows
| Citāts: | | Is there life on Mars? |
no there isn't , if not some new news
| Citāts: | | What was before the Big Bang? |
God created the universe... something like that
We always written down on physics at school.
| Citāts: | | Can robots be intelligent? |
Yes, they can . Movie I'm robot with Will Smith
yes they does, or something like ghosts
(вот ну сорри часами писать не смогу)
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Cet Okt 15, 2009 21:58
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the beginning of time
6 million years ago
22 AD
the year 2100
because just interesting - what was or will be on Earth
this time last year
Last year in this time I had vacation, so I want it again
next Tuesday at 3.30 pm
1973
1872
---Just to put , nothing to say
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Apathy is Boring
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Pēdējo reizi tika rediģēts: Riska (Cet Okt 15, 2009 22:43), kopumā tika rediģēts 1 reizi
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Do we come from apes?
I believe and really hope we aren't.  From my point of view all 3 theories (God, cosmic and apes) are interconnected. Therefore, i would not divide them so strictly.. I suppose our genes (human genes) were sent by smbd (God....)to this planet..as an experimental sample..It's sounds quite funny, but I think so..
Is there life on Mars?
I didn''t check it.
as i remember there are no scientific evidence of it yet..
What was before the Big Bang?
NOTHING...Vacuum...and God's idea... 
Can robots be intelligent?
No, they are intelligent so far as the humans have programmed them.
Will we live forever?
MMM...Phisically no...humen souls definitely!!!
Do ghosts exist?
Yes, they do. I don't like to think a lot about it.. In my opinion, it is something like a clot of energy either positive or negative..
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Cet Okt 15, 2009 22:41
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I would like to see our Earth :
- 6 million years ago - very interesting to see what kinds of live was exists,does human exist,...how human looked ..
- 1973 - I would like to see my mom and dad young
- 2100 - interesting how world change
Everything else options I don`t know at the moment, but may bee I`ll agree then this possibility exist
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So, last night I started the lesson. It wasn't easy the other exercises I will supplement tonight
1. Chat about topics we liked - I wrote my opinion about those
Scientists – an exciting job, a lot of opportunities to discover something new, unknown.
Proof – keeps in frenzy to find some evidence and solve the case further
Skeletons –the old skeletons can be researched and compared with modern man
Nicknames – always interested, why people are choosing specific nickname
Females – they are so different, they cannot be boring
Discoveries – must be very determined character to do the routin work permanently without garantees to discover something valuable
Secrets usually are interesting, there’s intrigue, analogical like in crime-movie or book
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Evolution – boring, because it is happening very slowly
Time capsules
Apes and chimpanzees – both, I don’t like monkeys at all, though their behaviour may be funny
Six millons years ago – unreal date, for regular man it says nothing 6 thousands or 6 millons years ago.
Long distances – both, in school i hated to run long distances, but I very very like to drive those.
Trees – both. Domestic trees make me boring, but I guess in tropical forest may be very weird types of trees.
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3. I'm believe we didn't came from apes
I guess we didn’t came frome apes, because since this theory does exist no one ape became a human or even a little features of this. I have doubts also due the missing speach skills of apes – nothing alike humans. And finally I could believe that contrariwise the apes came from humāns – we all i guess have seen mens’ that looks so peer to apes and their behavior may be peer, so this theory is not so unreal like it seems.
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Well, I am to write something on my turn -
1. I don`t like apes at all, I gues they are very loud, sometimes stupid, too curious and importunate so I would not like to concede that people came from apes... Evolution is quite interesting thing for me expecially if I am keen on history.
2. a) I do not like thought we came from apes as well I do not suppose we are descendants of Adam and Eve. My opinion of human origination is still indefinite.. b) I guess Mars is inhabited, even thorugh its inhabitants are infusorias only... c) I do not understand what do you mean under words Big Bang - popular clock? d) Robots can be wise if they are produced by people with intellect already. e) No, I don`t think so, people are weak and small even if they think they are strong and all-powerfull. f) I don`t know, I gues no, all incomprehensible can be explained by physics, chemistry, math.
4. I wouldn`t like to live 6 mil years ago, what should I have done there? I would like to visit ancient Roman empire, France and Italy in 18th century..
Vocabulary -
chimpanzee - ape, animal, gorilla, curious
missing - lost, not found
link - connect, touch, tie
Discussion
a) Oh, one else anchestor...
b) evolution - development, history, anchestors
c) As I have written above, my opinion on the topic is indefinite..
d) No, I do not believe
e)Missing link is new found human remains of female
f)It can be interesting to those who are interested in such kind of news.
g) Actually no
h)Let them try..
i)I do not think it was quite interesting, only nature, sky, water and earth
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Piek Okt 16, 2009 23:20
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Good evening! 
Thank you very much for doing such a great job, answering the questions and fulfilling the tasks.
While you were preparing your reports, I was reconsidering the goals and tasks we have here, I came to the conclusion, that:
1. we need more time than 4 days. So, it means that from moment we start the lesson, it would be better if you have 7 days to participate in discussion and send the essays.I suggest to establish start day on Wednesday and deadline also on Wednesday in a week.
2. also I suppose as not everybody wants to study seriously, but would like to participate in discussions on interesting themes, I suggest that everybody can participate in discussion, but those who would like to get detailed feedback on essays, please, sent it to my email [email protected] or here in private inbox within 7 days. Then I will check it and send back to you.
3. When the lesson is over, I will make some summary of the results and give grammar feedback on the discussion. However as it is kind of chat, I think that if I point out the rudest mistakes it will be enough, as for those who would like to get more information you can send me a message.
And as a conclusion for today, I can say that writing is really good, in those works which I have already seen, almost nothing to correct.  So, then do not be shy to write more. 
About BIG BANG THEORY - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
Have a good weekend!!! 
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2. SCIENCE QUESTIONS:
Do we come from apes?
I don't think we come from apes. I didn' see any believeble proof which would confirm this theory with no doubts. And I don't like this theory maybe this is the reason too why I'm choosing to not believe.
Is there life on Mars?
I don't follow the efforts of scientists in this field, though in all pictures of Mars which I have seen, the planet looked very unfriendly and uninhabited.
What was before the Big Bang?
Can robots be intelligent?
I read, that scientists still haven't the unify opinion about what actually the Artificial intelligence is. Because nobody can define equipollent what can be called the intelligence: logic, feeling or knowledge. So, imo, can robots be intelligent or not, depends of meaning of the word "intelligence" which we give him.
Will we live forever?
I think no. The all living being have definite terms of life, animals, plants etc. I cannot see any reason why sholud be made an exemption for the men, I don't think he had earned to be better as all other on the planet.
Do ghosts exist?
Probably I'm realistic too much, but I don't believe they really exist. Maybe are some thing that not allways can be explained usual way, but I guess there are any rational reason or explanation which is immediately invisible.
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Do we came from apes?
-I don't know.Maybe or maybe it was the God's joke.
Is there life on Mars?
-Probably this life is not explicable for humanity.
What was befor the Big Bang?
-When Каладеер will start to work,we can answer on this question.
Can robots be inelligent?
-After seeing some films like "Matrix",this idea is not so unreal.300 years ago peopale can't imagine that we could fly on some planes.
Will we live forever?
-We can live lonly.I belive in it.And so belive that our soul is immortal.That's wrritting in the Bible.
-Do ghost exist?
-Maybe some souls get lost.
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I would like to visit 1973.Want to speak with my grandmorthers and grandfarthers.Now I'm understanding thatknow so little about history of my family.
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Sv Okt 18, 2009 21:05
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Chipamzee-babans,Africa,aggression.I don't like monkeye at all.Expalsion is orangutang's babys.They are looking like littli sad clowns.
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It wasn't intresting to read this article for me.I'm not sintiest and some nuance,like smaller brains and longer feets,not impotant for me.I think all from our life would be shoke for Ardi.And I ancertain that Ardi could breath on our poluted air.
Missing-lost,disappear,vanish,die,perish
link-section,cuff-link,stud
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Дети ведут себя хорошо,если могут.(Росс Грин)
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a)What did you think when you read the headline?
I think that is very interesting article, because I am interested in that
b)What springs to mind when you hear the word ‘evolution’?
I remembered page from biological book with apes picture
c)What is your theory of how we got on Earth?
I think many millions years ago was some event who started up life development.This event was very strong.It may bee explosion,collision with comet and something else.In my opinion most really is collision with any spice body.In result,Earth changed orbit,in result of chemical reaction appeared water.This chemical and climatical reaction coincidence bringed to life appearance.
d)Do you believe we descended from apes?
I don`t know.May bee.I want to belive that we descended form humans which some sensiblless than our humans.
e)What is the missing link scientists keep talking about?
I think we have many-many this missing links, because we didn`t relaible know about life appearence
f)What do you think of this new discovery in Ethiopia?
Its very interesting return back for 6 million years and touch to the past
g)Are you interested in this kind of news? Why?
Yes,I like this kind of news,because its our history.If we knows about our history,we knows about our future
h)Do you think scientists will ever be able to trace our evolution?
I don`t think so. I think it`s too difficulty to found this trace and draw a real conclusion
i)What do you think life was like six million years ago?
May bee humans lived in communitis because so easy to survive,hunted,borned babys...
j)What other unknown things about the human race would you like to know?
I don`t know.A lot of unknown things about our appearence exist
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There aren't boring words in this article. May be some less attention we can pay for scientists, nicknames, females. Other topics are very interesting.
2.
-I don't think that we come from apes. There could be some being we come from but not the apes that exist now. Now they are not changing and I don't think they was.
- There isn't life on Mars. According to results from scientists the planet is simply too salty for life and it has been for billions of years.
- This question would normally belong in the realms of deep philosophical thinking. I'm not good in philosophy
- No it can't. Intelligence can't be programmed.
- I think our souls will live forever in other bodies.
- May be. It might be some souls that are looking for new cover for existence.
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Yes, I would like to be in a time capsule. First of all in the beginning of the time - it's very interesting with what all has begun
Then certainly in the future - it can't be uninteresting
About other dates we know something. It would be very exiting to get there. But it is a bit less than in dates about which I wrote above.
VOCABULARY
1. Monkey, dexterous, fast, tenacious, ridiculous, shaggy, a tree, a liana, a banana
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4. TIME CAPSULE: Would you like to be in a time capsule? Rank these – the ones you would most like to visit at the top and explain why.
Actually I would like to travel through the ages like Orlando of Virginia Woolf. If I could turn a time rate, for instance…
6 million years ago - only for a small period of time just to have a look how it was on the Earth. It would be interesting to see some kind of plants and small creatures, which do not exist at all already. I am not sure if I’d like to meet some dinosaur…maybe the smallest one and at a distance.
1973 - I would like to be in Las Vegas on Elvis’s concert and having with him afterparty!!
22 AD - probably I would like to be in Jerusalem, just to know a little bit more about life of Jesus Christ and having a clear and true story about all that was happening there.
the beginning of time – No, I wouldn’t like to see that picture.. I cannot imagine it at all.. Where is a start of the beginning of time? Always when I think about word “ the beginning” I start imagine a picure before it…there also should be smth...
this time last year - Absolutely! I'd like to feel my child inside of me once again!
the year 2100 - only for some minutes to be sure that everything is ok with my posterity
next Tuesday at 3.30 pm - No. I don’t like to force any activity if it is not very, very necessary
1872 - I see myself drinking a cup of tea with Her majesty queen Victoria or enjoying some traditional fest in Ireland or Scotland.
VOCABULARY
1. CHIMPANZEE: Spend one minute writing down all of the different words you associate with the word ‘chimpanzee’.
‘chimpanzee’ - a banana, a scream, shaggy, zoo, champagne Kongo, Africa, a palm, a mirror, a hairy mug
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